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  3. Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR vs Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO

Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR vs Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO Comparison

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Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR vs Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO Speaker Comparison

In this review, we will be comparing DW MAX SUR and DW 80 PRO, two Passive In-wall speakers by Definitive Technology.

Let's have a brief look at the main features of Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR and Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO first before getting into our more detailed comparison.

Key SpecsDefinitive Technology DW MAX SURDefinitive Technology DW 80 PRO
BrandDefinitive Technology
United States · founded 1990
Definitive Technology
United States · founded 1990
Design2-way2-way
Tweeter1"1"
Woofer2 x 5.25"8"
Frequency response34-25k Hz35-25k Hz
Sensitivity89 dB87 dB
Impedance4 ohms6 ohms
Dimensions (H x W x D)18-11/16" x 9-9/16" x 3-15/16"
474.7 x 242.9 x 100.3mm
16" x 10-7/8" x 3-15/16"
406.4 x 276.2 x 100.3mm

DW MAX SUR and DW 80 PRO are members of Definitive Technology's DW series of speakers. Below you can find the loudspeakers from this series.

Definitive Technology DW Series History
Model Body Frequency SensitivityImpedance Woofer
Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO
In-wall 35-25k Hz 87 dB6Ω 1 x 8"
Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR
In-wall 34-25k Hz 89 dB4Ω 2 x 5.25"
Definitive Technology DW 45 MAX
  
In-wall 60-25k Hz 83 dB6Ω 1 x 4.5"
Definitive Technology DW 65 PRO
  
In-wall 46-25k Hz 86 dB6Ω 1 x 6.5"
Definitive Technology DW 65 MAX
  
In-wall 56-25k Hz 85 dB6Ω 1 x 5.25"

The sections below take each area in turn: drivers, frequency response, physical size and what you get in the box.


Drivers

Both DW MAX SUR and DW 80 PRO are 2-way speakers.

Tweeter - 1 inchWoofer - 5.25 inchWoofer - 5.25 inch
Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR
Tweeter - 1 inchWoofer - 8 inch
Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO

TweeterWoofer

Front view, drawn to scale - cabinets and drivers share one scale, so sizes are directly comparable. Hover a driver for its size.

Driver Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO
Driver Setup 2-way 2-way
Tweeter 1-inch 1-inch
Midrange - -
Woofer 2 x 5.25-inch 1 x 8-inch

DW MAX SUR features a 1" Tweeter and 2 x 5.25" Woofer. On the other hand, the DW 80 PRO features a 1" Tweeter and 1 x 8" Woofer.

Frequency Response

DW MAX SUR has a frequency range of 34-25k Hz whereas DW 80 PRO has a frequency range of 35-25k Hz. With a minimum frequency of 34Hz, the DW MAX SUR can go slightly deeper then the DW 80 PRO's min frequency of 35Hz.

The graph below depicts how these two speakers compare with the max, min and average Low Frequency values of other speakers in the In-wall class in our database.

Low Frequency

In-wall Speakers

DW MAX SUR
DW 80 PRO
Min
Average
Median

Neither pair reaches down to 20Hz, the usual definition of full-range, which is normal for speakers of this size. If you want the bottom octave for movies or bass-heavy music, add a subwoofer to whichever you choose. Visit our Powered Subwoofers section to find out more about the available options.

Impedance and Sensitivity

DW MAX SUR is a 4 ohms speaker compared to the DW 80 PRO which has a nominal impedance of 6 ohms. Lower impedance speakers, especially the ones that are rated at 4 ohms may put more pressure on the amplifier unit especially when played at high volume levels, so make sure the amp you pair with the DW MAX SUR can provide this impedance level.

These two speakers also have different sensitivity levels. DW MAX SUR sensitivity is rated at 89 dB and the DW 80 PRO's is rated at 87 dB. This 2 dB difference makes the Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR a more sensitive speaker compared to Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO, hence will play louder with the same amount of watts.

Sensitivity

In-wall Speakers

DW MAX SUR
DW 80 PRO
Min
Average
Median

Which plays louder on your amplifier?

Starting with a popular amplifier - change it to the one you own, or any you are considering, and watch both numbers move.

Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR
 
Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO
 

Input Type and Bi-Amping / Bi-Wiring

DW MAX SUR features Spring post type posts and DW 80 PRO has a Spring post type posts. None of these speakers feature bi-amping/bi-wiring.

Physical Specs

The size of a speaker can sometimes be an important decision factor due to space constraints or in some cases purely for esthetic reasons. In this section, we are going to compare Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR's and Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO's external dimensions. Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR has external dimensions of 474.7 x 242.9 x 100.3mm () whereas Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO has external dimensions of 406.4 x 276.2 x 100.3mm ().

Size, drawn to scale

FRONTDefinitive Technology DW MAX SUR front: 243 x 406 mm (9.6 x 16 in)Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO front: 276 x 406 mm (10.9 x 16 in)Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR243 × 406 mmDefinitive Technology DW 80 PRO276 × 406 mmTOP / FOOTPRINTDefinitive Technology DW MAX SUR footprint: 243 x 100 mm (9.6 x 3.9 in)Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO footprint: 276 x 100 mm (10.9 x 3.9 in)Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR243 × 100 mmDefinitive Technology DW 80 PRO276 × 100 mm
Both speakers and both views share one scale, so everything here is directly comparable. Hover a box for its dimensions.

One scale for both, standing on the same surface and pushed back to the same wall, so the deeper one visibly sticks out further.

Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO needs about 14% more floor or shelf area.


Reasons to choose Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR over Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO

Sensitivity 89 dB vs 87 dB Play louder with same amount of amplification power
Number of Woofers 2 vs 1 More woofers
Low Frequency Response 34 Hz vs 35 Hz Generates deeper bass
Base Surface Area 243cm2 vs 277cm2 Takes less floor space

Reasons to choose Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO over Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR

Nominal Impedance 6 ohms vs 4 ohms Less selective with amplifiers
Woofer Size 8 inches vs 5.25 inches Larger woofer
Price per pair* 958USD vs 1358USD costs less (*prices may change depending on the seller, location and time)

Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR vs Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO Specs Table

Detailed comparison of specifications
General Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO
Brand Definitive Technology Definitive Technology
Speaker Type Passive In-wall Speaker Passive In-wall Speaker
Sensitivity 89 dB 87 dB
Impedance 4 ohms 6 ohms
Frequency Response 34-25k Hz 35-25k Hz
Drivers
Woofer Quantity 2 1
Woofer Size 5.25" 8"
Woofer Composition
Tweeter Size 1" 1"
Aimable Tweeter No No
Midrange Driver No No
Physical Specs
Height 406.4mm (16") 406.4mm (16")
Width 242.9mm (9.6") 276.2mm (10.9")
Depth 100.3mm (3.9") 100.3mm (3.9")
Enclosure
Moisture Resistancy No No
Connections
Other
Parts Warranty 5 Years 5 Years
Labor Warranty 5 Years 5 Years

Verdict

Siblings in Definitive Technology's DW series, so they share a family sound. It comes down to size, output and price.

AreaBetterWhy
Bassevenly matchedMuch the same reach (34Hz vs 35Hz).
Amplifier needsADefinitive Technology DW MAX SUR is more sensitive (89dB vs 87dB), so it goes louder on the same amplifier.
Amplifier matchBDefinitive Technology DW 80 PRO is the easier load at 6 ohms; the other is 4 ohms and wants an amplifier rated for it.
SizedependsSimilar cabinet size - neither is easier to fit.
PriceBDefinitive Technology DW 80 PRO is cheaper - $958 against $1,358, about 29% less.

A Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR  B Definitive Technology DW 80 PRO
depends neither is better in the abstract - it turns on your room, your system or how you will use them. Only specs published for both speakers are judged; anything missing on either side is left out rather than guessed.

Which should you choose?

Neither runs away with it - they trade advantages. Let the "depends" rows and your own room settle it. If your amplifier is modest, vintage or valve-based, Definitive Technology DW MAX SUR is the safer partner - the other will want more current or more watts to sound its best. Think about the whole system, not just the speakers: the roughly $400 saved by taking the cheaper pair would buy a subwoofer or a better amplifier, and either usually does more for the sound than the difference between these two.

And remember what a spec sheet cannot show: how each looks in your room and whether the finish suits it, what dealer support and warranty are like where you live, and how they actually sound to you. If you can hear them first - ideally with your own music - that will tell you more than any number above.


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