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  3. AE509 vs DALI Opticon 8 II

AE509 vs DALI Opticon 8 II Comparison

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AE509

Passive Floor-standing | 32Hz - 28kHz

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DALI Opticon 8 II

Passive Floor-standing | 38-30k Hz

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AE509 vs DALI Opticon 8 II Speaker Comparison

In this review, we will be comparing AE509 and Opticon 8 MK2, two Passive Floor-standing speakers from Acoustic Energy and DALI.

Let's have a brief look at the main features of AE509 and DALI Opticon 8 II first before getting into our more detailed comparison.

Key SpecsAE509DALI Opticon 8 II
BrandAcoustic Energy
United Kingdom · founded 1987
DALI
Denmark · founded 1983
Design2-way3-way
Tweeter1" dome with waveguide17 x 45 mm ribbon + 1.125" Soft-dome + ribbon Hybrid
Midrange—6.5"
Woofer2 x 5" carbon fibre cone2 x 8" Wood Fiber
Frequency response32Hz - 28kHz38-30k Hz
Sensitivity89 dB88 dB
Impedance6 ohms4 ohms
Power rangeup to 175 watts40-300 watts
Weight22.00kg / 48.4lbs37.10kg / 81.6lbs
Dimensions (H x W x D)39.4" x 7.3" x 10.6"
1000.0 x 185.0 x 270.0mm
45-1/4" x 9-1/2" x 18-1/16"
1150.0 x 245.0 x 459.0mm

What size room are the AE509 and DALI Opticon 8 II speakers good for?

The size of the room in which you are planning to use these loudspeakers is an important decision factor. Here we have compared their suitability to various sizes of environments considering their size and max power parameters:

Listening Environment* AE509 DALI Opticon 8 II
Near-field Bad Bad
Small Room Poor Poor
Mid-size Room Good Average
Large Room Good Good
Very Large Room Poor Average

(* Approximate Room sizes: Small < 100sq. ft / 9 m2, Mid-size: 100-220 sq. ft / 9-20 m2, Large 220-400 sq. ft / 20-36 m2, Very Large: > 400 sq. ft / 36 m2. Average Floor Height: 9" / 2.7m. Typical room sizes differ from country to country, and the actual listening experience changes depending on floor height, room shape, surface materials, listening position, speaker locations, etc.)

The sections below take each area in turn: drivers, frequency response, physical size and what you get in the box.


Drivers

One of the fundamental differences between these two speakers is that AE509 is a 2-way design whereas the Opticon 8 MK2 is a 3-way speaker. 3-way designs utilize a midrange driver in addition to the tweeter and woofer on 2-way designs. Designing a crossover for a 3-way speaker is a complicated process and generally increases the overall cost of the speaker.

Tweeter - 1 inchWoofer - 5 inchWoofer - 5 inch
AE509
Midrange - 6.5 inchWoofer - 8 inchWoofer - 8 inch
DALI Opticon 8 II

TweeterMidrangeWoofer

Front view, drawn to scale - cabinets and drivers share one scale, so sizes are directly comparable. Hover a driver for its size.

Driver AE509 DALI Opticon 8 II
Driver Setup 2-way 3-way
Tweeter 1-inch 17 x 45 mm ribbon + 1.125-inch
Midrange - 1 x 6.5-inch
Woofer 2 x 5-inch 2 x 8-inch

AE509 features a 1" carbon fibre dome with waveguide Tweeter and 2 x 5" carbon fibre cone Woofer with a Crossover frequency at 2800Hz. On the other hand, the Opticon 8 MK2 features a 17 x 45 mm ribbon + 1.125" Soft-dome + ribbon Hybrid Tweeter, a 6.5" Midrange and 2 x 8" Wood Fiber Woofer with a Crossover frequency at 380Hz, 2200Hz and 14,000Hz.

AE509 driver frequency bandsAE509DALI Opticon 8 II32-2.8k38-380Woofer380-2.2kLower mid2.2k-14kMidrange2.8k-28kTweeter20501002005001k2k5k10k20k40kHz, log scale

Frequency Response

AE509 has a frequency range of 32Hz - 28kHz whereas Opticon 8 MK2 has a frequency range of 38-30k Hz. With a minimum frequency of 32Hz, the AE509 can go significantly deeper on the low side and provide stronger bass compared to the Opticon 8 MK2's min frequency of 38Hz.

The graph below depicts how these two speakers compare with the max, min and average Low Frequency values of other speakers in the Floor-standing class in our database.

Low Frequency

Floor-standing Speakers

AE509
Opticon 8 MK2
Min
Average
Median

Neither pair reaches down to 20Hz, the usual definition of full-range, which is normal for speakers of this size. If you want the bottom octave for movies or bass-heavy music, add a subwoofer to whichever you choose. Visit our Powered Subwoofers section to find out more about the available options.

Impedance and Sensitivity

AE509 is a 6 ohms speaker compared to the Opticon 8 MK2 which has a nominal impedance of 4 ohms. Lower impedance speakers, especially the ones that are rated at 4 ohms may put more pressure on the amplifier unit especially when played at high volume levels, so make sure the amp you pair with the Opticon 8 MK2 can provide this impedance level.

These two speakers also have different sensitivity levels. AE509 sensitivity is rated at 89 dB and the Opticon 8 MK2's is rated at 88 dB. This 1 dB difference makes the AE509 a more sensitive speaker compared to DALI Opticon 8 II, hence will play louder with the same amount of watts.

Sensitivity

Floor-standing Speakers

AE509
Opticon 8 MK2
Min
Average
Median

Power Range

Power range is the range of input power in watts RMS that a loudspeaker is designed to handle. Staying within that range gives nominal performance; driving the speaker beyond its maximum wattage can damage it.

Opticon 8 MK2 can handle a max power of 300 watts RMS, whereas AE509 has a max power handling value of 175 watts RMS, 125 watts less than the Opticon 8 MK2.

Note that higher power handling does not make a speaker louder: that depends mainly on sensitivity and impedance. The calculator below shows how loud each of these actually plays on a real amplifier.

Which plays louder on your amplifier?

Starting with a popular amplifier - change it to the one you own, or any you are considering, and watch both numbers move.

AE509
 
DALI Opticon 8 II
 

Cabinet Type and Port Position

Both AE509 and Opticon 8 MK2 have rear firing ports. Rear ported speakers generally need more room between the backside of the speaker and the wall compared to sealed and front/bottom ported speakers. Placing the speakers too close to the walls may cause the bass to sound boomy.

If you are limited in space and can't get the speakers away from the backwall, check our Speakers with Front Firing Ports page.

DALI Opticon 8 II  Port
DALI Opticon 8 II Port

Physical Specs

The size of a speaker can sometimes be an important decision factor due to space constraints or in some cases purely for esthetic reasons. In this section, we are going to compare AE509's and DALI Opticon 8 II's external dimensions. AE509 has external dimensions of 1000.0 x 185.0 x 270.0mm (39.4 x 7.3 x 10.6inch) whereas DALI Opticon 8 II has external dimensions of 1150.0 x 245.0 x 459.0mm (45-1/4 x 9-1/2 x 18-1/16inch).

DALI Opticon 8 II is clearly the larger of the two speakers. Its body is 60mm wider, 150mm taller and 189mm deeper than AE509.

Base Surface Area Comparison
Base surface area of a loudspeaker may become a determining factor when the space in your room or desk is limited. The base surface area of the AE509 is approximately 499.5cm2 / 77.4inch2 and base area of the DALI Opticon 8 II is approximately 1124.6cm2 / 174.3inch2. The AE509 requires 56% less surface area than the Opticon 8 MK2 which gives it a small advantage on placement in tight spaces.

Weight Comparison

The weight of a loudspeaker can become an important factor if you need to move and reposition the unit often. Weight of a speaker can also "sometimes" be an indicator of the rigidity of the enclosure and the quality of the internal components used. The AE509 weighs 22.00kg / 48.4lbs and the DALI Opticon 8 II weighs 37.10kg / 81.6lbs. This makes the Opticon 8 MK2 69% heavier than the AE509.

Here is a comparison of how AE509 and Opticon 8 MK2's weights compare with the average, max and min weights in Passive Floor-standing class.

Weight
All Floor-standing Speakers
AE509
DALI Opticon 8 II
Min
Average
Max

What's in the Box of DALI Opticon 8 II?

Here are the items that come with the Opticon 8 MK2:
  • Floorstanding loudspeaker
  • Grille
  • 2 Binding post jumpers (pre-installed)
  • 4 Outrigger feet
  • 4 Spikes (with lock nuts)
  • 4 Rubber pads
  • 4 Screws
  • Hex-key
  • Wrench
  • Quick Start Guide
  • Congratulations Card


Reasons to choose Acoustic Energy AE509 over DALI Opticon 8 MK2

Sensitivity 89 dB vs 88 dB Play louder with same amount of amplification power
Nominal Impedance 6 ohms vs 4 ohms Less selective with amplifiers
Low Frequency Response 32 Hz vs 38 Hz Generates deeper bass
Height 1000mm vs 1150mm Easier to fit in smaller spaces
Base Surface Area 499cm2 vs 1124cm2 Takes less floor space
Price per pair* 3499USD vs 4200USD costs less (*prices may change depending on the seller, location and time)

Reasons to choose DALI Opticon 8 MK2 over Acoustic Energy AE509

Max Input Power 300 watts vs 175 watts Handle more power from your amplifier
Driver Setup 3-way vs 2-way Have a dedicated mid-range driver
Woofer Size 8 inches vs 5 inches Larger woofer
High Frequency Response 30k Hz vs 28k Hz Generates higher frequency

AE509 vs DALI Opticon 8 II Specs Table

Detailed comparison of specifications
General Acoustic Energy AE509 DALI Opticon 8 MK2
Brand Acoustic Energy DALI
Speaker Type Floor-standing speaker Floor-standing speaker
Power Range up to 175 watts 40-300 watts
Sensitivity 89 dB 88 dB
Impedance 6 ohms 4 ohms
Frequency Response 32Hz - 28kHz 38-30k Hz
Drivers
Woofer Quantity 2 2
Woofer Size 5" 8"
Woofer Composition carbon fibre cone Wood Fiber
Woofer Surround Material n/a Rubber
Tweeter Size 1" 17 x 45 mm ribbon + 1.125"
Tweeter Type dome with waveguide Soft-dome + ribbon Hybrid
Aimable Tweeter No No
Midrange Driver No 6.5"
Crossover Frequency 2800Hz 380Hz, 2200Hz and 14,000Hz
Firing Direction rear rear
Physical Specs
Height 1000.0mm (39.4") 1150.0mm (45.3")
Width 185.0mm (7.3") 245.0mm (9.6")
Depth 270.0mm (10.6") 459.0mm (18.1")
Weight 22.00kg (48.4lbs) 37.10kg (81.6lbs)
Enclosure Bass Reflex Bass Reflex
Finish Resonance Suppression Composite (RSC) MDF/Wood-grain vinyl
Available Colors Piano Gloss Black, Piano Gloss White, American Walnut wood veneer Satin Black, Tobacco Oak, Satin White
Grille Yes Yes
Moisture Resistancy No No
Connections
Biamp Inputs n/a Yes
Other
Parts Warranty 5 Years
Labor Warranty 5 Years

Verdict

No single best speaker here - they are built to different priorities, and the right one depends on your room, your amplifier and what you listen to.

AreaBetterWhy
BassAAE509 digs deeper - 32Hz against 38Hz. A subwoofer would even that out.
Amplifier needsevenly matchedSimilar sensitivity (89dB vs 88dB) - both want much the same power.
Amplifier matchAAE509 is the easier load at 6 ohms; the other is 4 ohms and wants an amplifier rated for it.
HeadroomBDALI Opticon 8 II takes more power (300W vs 175W) - more in hand in a big room.
SizedependsAE509 is easier to place; DALI Opticon 8 II is bigger, which usually goes with fuller bass. Your room decides.
ExpandabilityBDALI Opticon 8 II: bi-amping. DALI Opticon 8 II sits in a wider range (6 models), so a matched surround system is easier later.
PriceAAE509 is cheaper - $3,499 against $4,200, about 17% less.

A AE509  B DALI Opticon 8 II
depends neither is better in the abstract - it turns on your room, your system or how you will use them. Only specs published for both speakers are judged; anything missing on either side is left out rather than guessed.

Which should you choose?

Neither runs away with it - they trade advantages. Let the "depends" rows and your own room settle it. If a subwoofer is in your plans, the bass gap largely stops mattering - you would be crossing over above 38Hz anyway, so judge these on the other rows instead. Match it to your room: we rate AE509 the better fit for a mid-size room, and DALI Opticon 8 II for a very large room.

And remember what a spec sheet cannot show: how each looks in your room and whether the finish suits it, what dealer support and warranty are like where you live, and how they actually sound to you. If you can hear them first - ideally with your own music - that will tell you more than any number above.


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